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Post by The Fearless Fiend on Nov 20, 2003 12:10:59 GMT -5
I did get some sleep, thanks DB! Anyway, I would so love to see where our beloved SJ takes us next as well!! Boy, would I!! Would he loose it as a blind man? Hmm, I don't think so. I think he's too stubborn for something like that to happen. I think he would adapt. Yes, he did ask for help by the end of the movie, that is true. Hooray for 'Chiclet!' But he also didn't lay down and die, even though he had plenty of opportunities. No, he stood up and fought. Sure, he needs to work on his execution a bit (no pun intended), getting shot three times wasn't good, but he still managed to come out on top. Go SJ!!! ;D
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Post by F. Bella Incognita on Nov 21, 2003 9:43:41 GMT -5
Yes he did. I'll never forget it, when I saw it the day it came out in the theatre the whole audience clapped when Sands' hand came rising from the smoke. Woot! Sands is irresistible! Crazy, yes, but still irresistible!
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Post by The Fearless Fiend on Nov 21, 2003 12:41:27 GMT -5
LOL!! The first theater I saw it in clapped at that scene too!! Which was really amusing, considering that there were a lot of horrified gasps during the cook scene especially. SJ just has a way of worming himself into our hearts, doesn't he? "You're psychopathic, sociopathic and insane, but we still love you, SJ!!!"
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Post by The Dashing Director on Nov 24, 2003 6:52:23 GMT -5
My theater wend wild, and my grandma (yes, *mutters* I saw it the first time with my grandma) was all confused, she's like "What? Why is everyone clapping? Is it over?" I just shook my head, laughed, and clapped too, even though it had already passed.
-DaDi
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Post by The Fearless Fiend on Nov 24, 2003 13:10:34 GMT -5
LOL! I went to see it the first time with my boyfriend. Great date movie, huh? And the theater definitely erupted in applause at that scene. ;D
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Post by Secret Pseudonym on Dec 26, 2003 17:38:25 GMT -5
The first time I saw the movie, there were only five other people in the theater, and I was too busy being amazed by what was going on to actually respond. And the second time I saw it, I was the only one in the theater, and I talked back to the screen any time I wanted to, and it was great. ;D
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Post by Dangerbabe on Dec 27, 2003 14:43:09 GMT -5
Oh, SchizoDoc! That must've been great to have the theater all to yourself! I love it when that happens. Alone with Sands....must've been...interesting.
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Post by The Fearless Fiend on Jan 3, 2004 23:18:04 GMT -5
Oh wow, I'm envious. SJ all to yourself?? *pouts* no fair. I'm glad for you. That must have been so much fun!!! -FF
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Post by Bring Me That Horizon on May 16, 2004 14:44:07 GMT -5
Great character analysis, Dangerbabe... hit the nail right on the head. Wow, you really went itnto detail there. Yah, I really don't think I'd like Sands too much if it wasn't RR movie, or if Johnny wasn't playing the role of Sands, which I am very very sorry to say. He's a cruel, angry, bitter, and disturbed man who just has to get his way, sometimes in odd ways, but still. I think he just puts on that tough side because he needs to if he's going to work for the CIA and survive. But like when he tells the bubble-gum boy (sorry, I don't know his name...) to run, and before that when he didn't make the kid shoot the bad guy, I think that's the real Sheldon Sands. I just think he has a really, and I mean really hard shell to crack on the outside. But once that shell is cracked...you got a real nice guy there...a real nice guy...*sniffle*...phew. That was some strong stuff...
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Post by Dangerbabe on May 17, 2004 0:18:40 GMT -5
I agree! He has (had?) a very tough shell. It will be interesting to see where Rodriguez takes the character of Sands if he does do a sequel of some sort. Great thoughts, BringMe!
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Post by The Rolling Rooster on Aug 3, 2004 17:08:27 GMT -5
i think he's gone mad from so much pork... so much good pork!
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Post by DCS03 (Iggy) on Aug 13, 2004 12:24:05 GMT -5
My family (meaning everyone between the ages of 15 and 20) and I got bored one day and totally messed with my aunts camera and we mixed in all kinds of movies, OUaTiM being one of them, at the end to show that we were done, we pulled a OUaTiM and my brother threw his hand up in the camera and after a few seconds he popped up and said "oh yeah, thats my hand" sorry that was a bit but you guys were talkin about the hand and I wanted to share.. but I would love to see a sequel.. if thats followin anything
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Post by Anique Abberline on Aug 16, 2004 6:53:07 GMT -5
I never have a theater that was so much fun they never clap or laugh or anything. then I'm the only one in there doing that
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Post by charlieshellspawn on Apr 30, 2007 10:41:37 GMT -5
I picture the inner workings of S.J's mind to be somewhat like an art exhibition of Goya's paintings I read about.
It starts off with the normal...or, the normal enough. Pictures of smiling, pretty people are in the beginning. They're looking all portrait-perfect, stately and poised. In fact, they're almost too poised. Something looks rather unnatural about them, something off, something wrong. Contained chaos seethes under the surface of order.
Then, the shadows begin to creep in. They're subtle at first, looming at the very edge of perception and disappearing when you try to look closely, flitting in between the smiling, normal people like smoke. Slowly they become more noticeable, until they're looming behind two laughing women, clear as day but dark as night.
And then, the bitter cynicism comes. The mockery. The macabre, satirical wit, all bound neatly in a framework of the nonsensical as the shadows begin to engulf. Then comes violence. War. Death. All in its gritty, truthful, inglorious reality. It may be wrong, it may be right, but it's happening and it cannot be stopped.
Switch to scenes of bullfights. The speech S.J. gave comes to mind..."the bull is stabbed, prodded, beaten...the bull is wounded. The bull is tired, before the matador ever steps into the ring. Now is that victory? Of course it is. The secret to winning is to rig the game." Except in these pictures, the bull is dying. One starts to wonder...is the bull a symbol of Sands himself?
And then, the nightmares truly set in. Darkly dramatic scenes of alienation, wildness, and the grotesque whirl past in rapid succession. Mask-wearing crowds dance frantically, never noticing the two-legged goat in their midst. Two women with faces like corpses preen themselves. Things unknowable leer out of the dark at terrified men. There is still color and light, but it serves like a kaleidoscope, adding to the surreal terrors.
Then, color and light fades away, leaving utter darkness. The visions which wait in the dark are the worst yet. Blood. Rotting. Sheer brutality. Irrevocable insanity, and all the bleakness and despair of one truly lost inside.
When the world comes back, full of laughing, happy, normal people once more, it doesn't look the same as before. The shadows are still there, hiding where the sunlight doesn't reach, and the memory of the horrors within taints any cheer which may be present.
This is how I imagine a glimpse inside Sands' mind would look. I think he's probably psychotic, but I might be wrong.
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Post by The Poetic Protégée on May 1, 2007 6:17:24 GMT -5
Woah. That was intense ;D. I think that was the best depiction of Sands' fragile mental state I have ever read. I especially love the way you see the bull as a symbol for Sands. I need to watch this movie again, it's been way too long.
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