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Post by The Poetic Protégée on Jul 28, 2006 6:59:51 GMT -5
I think it might be a bit of both, SS. But even when he choses roles that aren't fantastic he somehow manages to make them sparkle. So you know quite a bit about the time period? I think that definitely makes the film more enjoyable, it did for me anyway ;D. I've always been fascinated by the Restoration.
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Post by The Symbolic Sacrifice on Jul 28, 2006 17:12:07 GMT -5
I think it will be something I will read more on, have to go into your other threads.
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Post by amp on May 22, 2008 19:23:29 GMT -5
So Idle a Rogue, so tortured a soul...but though I can't relate to his social stature, I could really relate to his sardonic wit and crass obsenities.
Libertines lived to raise eyebrows as well as skirts. Had he not taken ill, he may have succeeded in cleaning up his act, and become the statesman King Charles II wanted him to be.
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Post by The Poetic Protégée on May 23, 2008 15:40:51 GMT -5
Do you really think so?
I think a life of self-destruction can only end one way...but perhaps you are right, maybe another set of circumstances would have seen the Earl seeing the error of his ways in time to save himself.
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Post by amp on May 23, 2008 20:30:43 GMT -5
There are many people who live to tell the tale of redemption. It takes hitting bottom and a lot of courage and help from loved ones. Of course, the Earl did go there on his death bed. But that's a little like cheating. Fear of eternal punishment no doubt.
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Post by The Poetic Protégée on May 24, 2008 17:27:34 GMT -5
Mmm, yeah, I'm not sure I'd believe him. After all, he had nothing to lose by renouncing his life of excess when he didn't have much life left. I really do want to believe that he was capable of redeeming himself . Did you know that the character of Rochester in Jane Eyre was loosely modelled on the Earl because Charlotte Bronte wanted to redeem him in fiction?
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Post by amp on May 25, 2008 8:52:24 GMT -5
Mmm, yeah, I'm not sure I'd believe him. After all, he had nothing to lose by renouncing his life of excess when he didn't have much life left. I really do want to believe that he was capable of redeeming himself . Did you know that the character of Rochester in Jane Eyre was loosely modelled on the Earl because Charlotte Bronte wanted to redeem him in fiction? I did not know that! I'm smart but only finished high school, so thanks for that bit of trivia! I've read some Austen, and Fielding and Scott and Dickens, and my conclusion is, I'll wait for the Masterpiece Theater versions, because the verbose literary language before the 20th century makes me feel like committing Seppuku.
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Post by The Poetic Protégée on May 27, 2008 12:23:30 GMT -5
Well, if you fancy giving another 'classic' a go, Jane Eyre comes with my highest recommendation. It is amazing. I read it every year and it's incredible every time.
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Post by amp on May 27, 2008 20:22:08 GMT -5
No one has ever recommended Jane Eyre to me before! Perhaps I will give it a go. Thanks, Jay!
btw, I read the play The Libertine by Stephen Jeffreys, and loved it. Have you read the original play by any chance?
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Post by The Poetic Protégée on May 29, 2008 3:31:28 GMT -5
My pleasure, amp...I just hope you still thank me after you've read it ;D
No, I haven't! How does it compare? I should get my hands on a copy of that...it's a little shaming that I haven't done it yet.
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Post by amp on May 29, 2008 8:31:51 GMT -5
The movie is surprisingly true to the play, but the movie is rounded out better and all gaps are filled. No punny innuendo intended. hehe
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Post by The Poetic Protégée on May 30, 2008 10:33:02 GMT -5
I'm glad the movie is better! ;D
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