"Hoist the colors!" Film discussion

[Bex00001]

schizopiratedoc said:

Here's a question for you: since when did cutting your heart out become a requirement for captaining the Dutchman? Jones didn't have to cut his heart out. That was made obvious in DMC (by Tia Dalma) and in AWE (by Will). Jones willingly cut his heart out to stop the pain of love betrayed. Tia Dalma also implies in AWE that Jones chose to cut out his heart rather than leave it in her possession despite how much it hurt.

Yet everyone also keeps saying that whoever captains the Dutchman must cut out his heart. Couldn't someone Captain the Dutchman without putting his heart in the chest. If the Dutchman only needs a heart, why can't it remain in the captain's body...which is where I assume Jones kept his for the first ten years of his reign.

So what is going on with this?

I'm not sure but maybe when Jones cut his heart out that started the tradition on the Flying Dutchman =S I dunno, just a guess, good question - it has got me thinking!

[The Idyllic Idealist]

Quote:Here's a question for you: since when did cutting your heart out become a requirement for captaining the Dutchman? Jones didn't have to cut his heart out. That was made obvious in DMC (by Tia Dalma) and in AWE (by Will). Jones willingly cut his heart out to stop the pain of love betrayed. Tia Dalma also implies in AWE that Jones chose to cut out his heart rather than leave it in her possession despite how much it hurt.

Yet everyone also keeps saying that whoever captains the Dutchman must cut out his heart. Couldn't someone Captain the Dutchman without putting his heart in the chest. If the Dutchman only needs a heart, why can't it remain in the captain's body...which is where I assume Jones kept his for the first ten years of his reign.

So what is going on with this?

Maybe it's because the Dutchman needs a living heart. Will and Davy were immortal and their heart was cut out and the only way they could die is if someone stabs their heart. If their heart is in their body then I guess they could die of natural causes and if they do then who would captain the Dutchman?

Ok, that probably made no sense. I don't really know how to explain that, but that's my guess.

Anyways, I love this movie! It kinda sucks how Will and Elizabeth were separated though and can only see each other once every ten years. It also kinda sucks how Barbossa stole the Pearl AGAIN from poor Jack. I wonder if he got to the fountain of youth. I felt bad for Davy too, that was a nasty betrayal. Her reason wasn't even good enough for not showing up!